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We added three good moderators and things still got worse as far as our relationship with our RZR members. We are also getting smeared big time on other sites. That tells me that the techniques we have been using don't work as well as they used to, especially with our younger crowd.

We used to just ban them if they didn't do what we wanted, but now they have a few outlets available to smear our reputation. I'm sure we will see even more of these "Ranger sites" pop up over time. If we get 6-10 people bad mouthing us we can survive that. But, how about when we get 50 or 100?

We have worked too hard on our reputation to give the appearance that we are a bunch of hard cases over here.

I want you all to think PR first and enforcement second, instead of the other way around. As a police officer I have learned that there are several ways to gain compliance. Force works the fastest, but it usually comes with a whole new set of problems. In police work I have found that patience, understanding and the ability to gain compliance with education, instructive criticism, and professional applications of the law as necessary have served me best. This is a practice that I have veered from in my moderator duties over the years. I've let the years of forum trials give me an edge that alienated a lot of people.

Let's all think about the people we are dealing with. They come from a multitude of backgrounds, education levels and personalities. We need to remember this and apply flexibility when it is appropriate and firmness when necessary. Our blanket black and white techniques just don't work with everybody.

Here's some things we can try. Think "remove a post" before locking a thread when possible. A note to the poster with the reason it was removed, if not obviously apparent. Allow a little more "semi-heated discussions" as long as they are not using obscenities or seriously "bashing" each other. Edit some of the off color words and drop a suggestion to the poster that they be careful because we are family friendly here. Let's try being a little more patient with the moving of topics. If we do, post a link to where it was moved to the original forum under the same heading.

Also, let's think PR when we are visiting other sites, especially if you use the same screen name like I do on all forums. Leave the impression that we are a friendly, professional site if you talk about PRC.

Gentlemen, don't get me wrong; we WILL get tough when we have to do so to keep the peace. I just ask that the tougher, firm actions be a very last resort.

I have been trying to practice what I preach on the RZR section to bring some peace over there. I can see some improvement, but the natives will continue to challenge and we will have to continue to moderate fairly and professionally. I think we have the team put together here that can handle that challenge. We have all done some EXCELLENT work on PRC, but we have to be prepared to grow with the site in our techniques and our attitudes. Me included.

I am open to discussions. How can we improve public relations and still gain compliance?
 

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Thank you for clearing up some grey area. I deal with a whole host of different people everyday, some with conflicting views, and try to be very un-biased in the process. I try to give everyone the same opportunity to state thier mind in a civil way, as long as it stays civil. I do need a place to vent about what goes on because it lets me get rid of my frustrations without taking it out on the person that caused it. Hope that made sense. If I blow off in this section and I am out of line let me know. I just feel that you all understand where it is coming from and my wife doesn't need me venting on her. Thanks again.
 

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Totally understandable. Bruce and I vent all the time. You are doing a great job and I just want to get us all on the same track.
 

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Mike,

You are doing fine and yes, me and Gary do vent all the time!!! Yes, by all means, use this section to take out your frustrations. And, I don't care if they are with a regular member or me. However, if you vent about me, be prepared for my response!!! LOL!!! Just kidding, really, we are all adults here and each of you were picked for a reason. We didn't just close our eyes and pick the one our finger stopped on, so feel free to share the good and bad times here. We have a great time when things go well and we are each others support group when they start screwing up.
 
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I think thats probably a good track to take. In my dealings with other members who were difficult before I was a mod I have had several conversations through email that seemed to help. I think that sometimes doing it privately where no one else is looking eliminates some hurt feelings and prevents others from jumping in and provoking the situation. On the other hand I think sometimes we have to make an example of the WORST offenders just so they know there are consequenses.
 
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I couldn't agree more Gary, sounds like the way to go. We call that "Verbal Judo" on our department, lol. I think the only section I moderate is the discount section and thats fine with me, nice and simple,LOL. I'll try to keep a handle on it.

I think all you guys are doing great, it takes special people to keep things fun, informative and still maintain a friendly peaceful atmosphere. Keep up the good work fellers!
 
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I'm with ya, Gary. Until instructed otherwise, these posted marching orders are the ones I'll follow.

Thank you, Sir.
 
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ElecTech</i>
<br />Mike,

You are doing fine and yes, me and Gary do vent all the time!!! Yes, by all means, use this section to take out your frustrations. And, I don't care if they are with a regular member or me. <font size="3">However, if you vent about me, be prepared for my response!!!</font id="size3"> LOL!!! Just kidding, really, we are all adults here and each of you were picked for a reason. We didn't just close our eyes and pick the one our finger stopped on, so feel free to share the good and bad times here. We have a great time when things go well and we are each others support group when they start screwing up.
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Bruce.......I have a vent for you. Mike, don't let him scare you.

Guys, Gary's right.

Sometimes a conversation, a slam at PRC or at Polaris can be turned around just with a question back at the poster.
It can be something as vague as "what do you suggest" or "how would you handle this problem" or "what do you think the next move should be"

Moderating is alot like being a bouncer at a night club (except the pays better for bouncers)[:D], the really good ones almost never get into fights.
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fiberguy</i>

Bruce.......I have a vent for you. Mike, don't let him scare you.

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Don't worry, I don't scare to easy[;)]
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Myers</i>


Don't worry, I don't scare to easy[;)]
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Good, we will send you a picture of Allan with a long blond wig and a short grass skirt. [:D]
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by absea</i>
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Don't worry, I don't scare to easy[;)]
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Good, we will send you a picture of Allan with a long blond wig and a short grass skirt. [:D]
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[:0]
 
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by absea</i>
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Don't worry, I don't scare to easy[;)]
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Good, we will send you a picture of Allan with a long blond wig and a short grass skirt. [:D]
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He wore that outfit in Minn. Trust me, you should be <font size="4"><b><font color="red">very scared</font id="red"></b></font id="size4">
 

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And if that doesn't work, we will send you a picture of Neal in tye dyed socks and an Amish bonnet!!! LOL!!
 
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ElecTech</i>
<br />And if that doesn't work, we will send you a picture of Neal in tye dyed socks and an Amish bonnet!!! LOL!!
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[:D][:D][:D]
 
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Myers</i>
<br />Do all of you guys dress in drag ofter[?][:0][:D]
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Gents...it sounds like Mike is on to us[:0].

Mike, after you've worn the full outfit a couple of times, it begins to feel more natural[;)].
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Ran</i>
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<br />Do all of you guys dress in drag ofter[?][:0][:D]
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Gents...it sounds like Mike is on to us[:0].

Mike, after you've worn the full outfit a couple of times, it begins to feel more natural[;)].
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I don't think I could get used to the thong!!!![:0]
They seem to creep up about all through the day[:I][;)]
 
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