Ok, here's the deal. Let's offer suggestions for building our idea of a perfect SXS and maybe some of the big boys will take notice and put some of our ideas to use.
Let's be realistic and keep in mind gov't restrictions and really try to come up with something that COULD be built and sold.
After driving the Polaris HD last year I was amazed at the difference the power steering made. My first suggestion for the perfect SXS would be that it have power steering.
I agree on the Power Steering. I also think it should be setup for (4+) Passengers. Kind of like the RZR 4 or Ranger Crew. It would be nice to see some base SxS's that don't require additional mods. If there was some more loaded base machines, the prices may be cheaper than adding everthing after market as the OEM's could leverage the economies of scale to get better price breaks.
I would like to see a small (lightweight/compact) 4 cyl - 4 valve - fuel inj. powerplant (current motorcycle technology / approx. 600 cc) - 6 speed gearbox - water cooled and chain drive, then you could do away with the clutch/belt headache's and be able to change the gearing very easily when and if needed. Paddle shifters on the steering wheel to shift gears / no clutch pedal. All of this technology is already out there - readily available and ripe for the taking :wink: .
IMHO the template is already there--Rzr. Make it tougher and add 20HP. I can already go duning in the summer, plow with it in winter and ride twisty ATV trails all year long. It just needs more guts.
I think the new 4 seater RZR is close, but I agree with Rich it would be cool if you could shift it. I think I would like it better with a manual shifter though. I also agree with Mark, it needs nore HP, but I'm not sure 20 more is enough.
I think the new 4 seater RZR is close, but I agree with Rich it would be cool if you could shift it. I think I would like it better with a manual shifter though. I also agree with Mark, it needs nore HP, but I'm not sure 20 more is enough.
The rzr 4 is getting there. It needs more hp 20+, maybe supercharged. I sat in one and thought it was pretty good. I'm only 5'8" and 165lb, would be great ride for the family.
I agree, the RZR 4 is a pretty sweet ride and could be a great foundation. More HP would always be better though. Getting up to 80 or 90HP would be awesome, it would fly.
I think the Rangers are very close now. I am not a RZR fan due to the lack of utility but would like to see a 60 to 70 horse power Ranger or Crew. Power steering would be nice as well.
I was sitting out in the shop yesterday thinking how cool it would be to have my GL1800 motor coupled with a 4 speed automatic transmission and full-time 4WD.
I think it would be tough to build ONE perfect SxS. I personally need a bed so I can haul things, but love sportability too. I've always wondered why they haven't put some sort of automotive type transmission in one but I think a lot of this comes down to weight and room. Right now some of these things are the size of Willys jeeps. I think it's hard to cram everything into something small enough to ride where you want to go.
I think the RZR XP 4 900 is just about perfect. I would like to see a model where the back seat area could have some sort of quick insert system, maybe like the jagged version. Would like to be able to change between seats, storage boxes, dog boxes, or just have a flat area for camping gear or hauling. I would also love to see them make a model that is street legal. I don't want to cruise long distances down the interstate but many areas I ride you need to travel down two lane roads to get from one trail head to another.
I think one that's "FREE" is a good starting point, with a bunch of "FREE" add-ons, FREE maintenance and FREE repair and one that pays me to drive it and produces enough gas to supply not only the fuel to drive it but also the fuel for my truck to pull it to everywhere I want to go.
I think one that's "FREE" is a good starting point, with a bunch of "FREE" add-ons, FREE maintenance and FREE repair and one that pays me to drive it and produces enough gas to supply not only the fuel to drive it but also the fuel for my truck to pull it to everywhere I want to go.
Mini Jeep I am hearing for 2014 from Italy. !4,000 there probably around 20,000 here. Only 61 inches wide. That could be my next UTV. Sweet look little Jeep Cheaper than a Polaris Ranger, AC Power Steering and the works. So pretty probably would not want to get scratched up!
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